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thanks for the help everyone. i've owned 4 hatches and one CRX http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/eek.gif so i think it's time to try something new.
i once heard the EX model has them same engine+tranny as the Si (d16a6) set-up. can anyone confirm or deny this?
thanks EVERYONE!
ami
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www.4thgenerationcivic.com
"Hi, my name is Ami and I'm a Honda-coholic"
My Si:
http://www.members.tripod.com/4thgencivic/id41.htm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ladynredsi:
thanks for the help everyone. i've owned 4 hatches and one CRX http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/eek.gif so i think it's time to try something new.
i once heard the EX model has them same engine+tranny as the Si (d16a6) set-up. can anyone confirm or deny this?
thanks EVERYONE!
ami
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The ex does indeed have the d16a6 although I believe the transmission is geared differently. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
yeah, ex and si have the same engine, different tranny.
speaking of 4doors, anyone got one they want to sell? i need a new one badly!!!
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322,000 miles and still goin strong!
1990 Civic 4 door
Toucan CAI
Big Honkin' AutoMeter Tach
Some HUGE 13" Konig Reign's
Short shifter w/ Type R knob
And rust, er, weight reduction
What I've found out about Civic Sedans:
EX is a D16A6 Si Engine, but auto configuration. Only made in 90-91. It has larger front brakes and a larger master cylinder (comaprable to the integra - same specs) than the other models - LX and DX.
All Sedans come with rear drums. However if you were to upgrade - the rear discs off an Integra and their E-Brake lines are the exact length - so it's a swap-over, jsut make sure to reuse your Civic upper, lower and front compensator arms on teh trailing arm swap.
LX and DX are both D15B2 Hatch DX engines. The only MPFI is the EX Sedan 90-91.
From what I've seen the EX Sedan comes in White - Black, Maroon - Maroon, Metallic Blue - Blue, and Black - Black or Grey - not sure.
I've seen some 90-91 models LX come with Tach's....however any 90-91 model Civic or CRX have swappable instrument cluster that plug-in...the wiring is already there.
The EX Sedan is not available in Canada - they never got one.
All Sedans had more options, and I think these were with power locks and power windows like an accord. Power Steering came on all of them as far as I know, and I could be wrong about that. Not sure about rear wipers.
EX Model like the Civic and CRX Si had 14" Tires and a stock 195 profile which is about an inch larger in rolling diameter then the DX and LX D15B2 models which came with 185-70R13s
JDM Models came with the DOHC ZC and the SOHC ZC. And the interiors on them were really really nice, not like stateside.
Weigh of the Sedan is about 2350 if I had to estimate it. The ZC Swap into one of these didn't do much of jack from a guy that lived two apartments over in NC. I think a B18 would have been more appropriate.
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My DX sedan has no power steering, windows or locks.
Oh yea my ZC in my sedan dropped 2.2 seconds off my quarter mile time. 17.8-> 15.6
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
Here is my personal list about sedans: (not to pick a fight but since I own one I notice these things.)
EX sedan - d16a6, power locks/windows/steering, nice seats, moonroof, auto tranny, A/C. I personally have never seen a 5-speed EX, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. 14" steelies with covers.
LX sedan - d15b2 motor - power locks/windows/steering. A/C an option. Autos and 5-speeds avail. Nicer seats than a DX but not much. Generally darker colored, slightly more plush interiors - Painted bumpers - 13" steel wheels with covers
DX sedan - d15b2, power steering optional (i don't have it) A/C optional (I do have that http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif), manual locks/windows. Auto and 5-speeds. 13" steel with covers. Black plastic bumpers. '90-91 models got rear headrests to spruce up the interior.
The weight reported by NC_Rex sounds about right for a sedan. 91zc says the sedan weighs about the same as an Si hatch and I'll buy that, but it may be a little less. The sticker on my car says the max Gross weight for the car is 3250 (with peeps in it), so with 5 passengers (x 200lbs????) the car itself might be a little less, like 2300 or so.
I would say that my seats are probably the same as the seats in a DX hatch tho...The interior isn't all that much "nicer". My seats are cloth on the sitting part, but the back and sides are plastic (vinyl) and the headliner is plastic too.
The stock tires on the DX/LX sedans are 175/70/13s. I think 185/60/14 on the EX.
I WISH my sedan had come with a DOHC ZC stock (damn JDM cars!!! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif - and I suspect that the 130HP will help my 1/4 mile time about the same as 91zc's - My only run at the track with the stock d15b2 motor was 18.078.
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-Shawn
91 DX 4-door
AEM CAI & other mods which only add weight http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
Well...now if I wasn't sick I could drive to PA to get that motor! *coff* *coff* - Hopefully by this weekend 91zc will only have one motor for his car and I will have two! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
[This message has been edited by sastanley (edited February 13, 2002).]
Here is the weight that I have found at quite a few sites:
1988:
DX=2039 lbs
LX=2138 lbs
1989:
DX=2147 lbs
LX=2211 lbs
1990:
DX=2262 lbs
LX=2322 lbs
EX=2374 lbs
All of these weights are for the manual models. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
[This message has been edited by 91zc (edited February 13, 2002).]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sastanley:
EX sedan - d16a6, power locks/windows/steering, nice seats, moonroof, auto tranny, A/C. I personally have never seen a 5-speed EX, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. 14" steelies with covers.
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moonroof? not to say i don't believe you..i have never seen one. i would love to find one with a moonroof (my Si has spoiled me)
and i have been watching autotrader.com and others lately. i have seen a couple of 5 speed LX's and EX's. i don't know if they came stock that way or were converted. living in the snow, i perfer the 5 speed (stupid auto's always getting stuck http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/frown.gif )
wow Jon, i thought you just dwelled on the hatch, crx, and integras. just goes to show you can learn something new about a person every day http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
ami
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www.4thgenerationcivic.com
"Hi, my name is Ami and I'm a Honda-coholic"
My Si:
http://www.members.tripod.com/4thgencivic/id41.htm
Here is the weight that I have found at quite a few sites:
1988:
DX=2039 lbs
LX=2138 lbs
Hey 91zc, where did you find those sepcs, cause i have an 88 4 door dx, and that is really light, but i dont think i doubt it, cause my car seems quicker than it should be if you know what i mean.
adam
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When you see the lights and hear the sirens, head for the nearest road with the most turns.
Oh yeah, to all of you 4 door owners out there, a great upgrade that shouldnt cost much is integra seats. i've had mine for about 3 months now and i love em!!! definetly one of the better things i've done to my car!
Adam
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When you see the lights and hear the sirens, head for the nearest road with the most turns.